Dailymotion using Ogg and other recent cool open video news

This past week was amazing, not because of Google Wave, which everybody seems to be talking about now, and not because of Microsoft’s launch of the bing search engine, but amazing for the world of open video.

  1. YouTube are experimenting with the HTML5 video tag. The demo only works in HTML5 video capable browsers, such as Firefox 3.5, Safari, Opera, and the new Chrome, which leads me straight to the next news.
  2. The Google Chrome 3 browser now supports the HTML5 video tag. The linked release only supports MPEG encoded video, but that’s a big step forward.
  3. More importantly even, recently committed code adds Ogg Theora/Vorbis support to Google Chrome 3’s video tag! This is based on using ffmpeg at this stage, which needs some further work to e.g. gain Ogg Kate support. But this is great news for open media!
  4. And then the biggest news: Dailymotion, one of the largest social video networks, has re-encoded all their videos to Ogg Theora/Vorbis and have launched an openvideo platform. The blog post is slightly negative about video quality – probably because they used an older encoder. The Xiph community has already recommended use of recommends experimenting with the new Thusnelda encoder and the latest ffmpeg2theora release that supports it, since they provide higher compression ratios and better quality.
  5. That latest ffmpeg2theora release is really awesome news by itself, but I’d also like to mention two other encoding tools that were released last week: the updated XiphQT QuickTime components, that now allow export to Ogg Theora/Vorbis directly from iMovie (I tested it and it’s awesome) and the new GStreamer command-line based python encoder gst2ogg which works mostly like ffmpeg2theora.

Overall a really exciting week for open media and HTML5 video! I think things are only going to heat up more in this space as more content publishers and more browsers will join the video tag implementations and the Ogg Theora/Vorbis support.

8 thoughts on “Dailymotion using Ogg and other recent cool open video news

  1. The Xiph community recommends the use of Thusnelda? AFAIK, Thusnelda is still in alpha stage and not yet “finished”. Or do you have a statement?

    1. Thusnelda is not a new codec. It is continuing improvements on the Theora encoder. libtheora1.1 alpha2 was released 6 days ago that contains some of the improvements that are part of the Thusnelda work. More improvements are in the pipeline. “Recommending use” is a very difficult decision to make and since it’s indeed still called “alpha”, you may not be willing to bet your horses on it. But from all the things I’ve seen on that codebase, I would certainly recommend moving forward with the innovation and improvements.

  2. The more unfortunate problem with Dailymotion is that many (most?) of the files were encoded with the ffmpeg-internal Vorbis codec which produces terrible sound, bad enough that several media outlets have mentioned it. Fortunately it looks like they later switched to using a proper encoder.

    Ahh.. growing pains.

    Re: Chrome. Are you sure that the latest chrome builds for windows do not include Ogg/Theora+Vorbis support? I’ve talked to several people who claim otherwise (and whom have been reporting in gaps and bugs in the support). It would be interesting to figure out what is going on there.

    1. Hmm… maybe I didn’t formulate that well enough: first there was the news that Chrome supported HTML5 video tag with MPEG, which is in the release. Later there was the news that they are also working on Ogg Theora/Vorbis support. Seems there are builds now for this support, too, so that’s really more news!

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